There have been a lot of Rogue-ish questions
lately, so before I bum off for yet another vacation (isn't
it fun being unemployed?), I thought I'd post this.
Note: This FAQ has not been updated
to include the many serious shocks that passed through the
scientific field of Rogue Research following the unique experience
that is Uncanny X-Men #304. We're still working on that update
... be patient.
The Rogue FAQ
presenting:
A Quicke and Lively Trek through
the Highlites of the Mutante Rogue
Fifth Edition. Updated April,
1993
Contents:
History
Powers
Appearances
An Absorbing List
Embarrassing Moments in Rogue History
Errors in Rogue's Stats in TSR's Marvel
Super-Heroes RPG
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<note: all listed history and powers
are from actual appearances>
Changes in this edition:
--Updates on the Rogue Absorbtion Lists, both pro and con,
of course.
--Also, the usual updates on the Appearance table.
--The Dedicated Typo Patrol.
History
Rogue is a mutant who was born somewhere in the South of
the United States. Her real family was rich enough to live
in a mansion-style house somewhere "south" of Virginia.
Somewhere along in her youth, however, Mystique (Raven Darkholme)
and her live-in friend and lover Destiny (Irene Adler), acquired
guardianship of Rogue. While we have no evidence that they
were her legal adoptive guardians, we also have no reason
not to believe so. What happened to Rogue's real parents,
their supposed money, and her real name are not known.
By the time of her early teens Rogue was living in Caldecott
County, Mississippi (a fictional county) with Mystique and
Destiny. They most definitely were not living in a mansion
at this time, although Mystique and Destiny were most certainly
engaged in their mutant terrorist activities. Rogue was already
calling herself Rogue by her mid/early teens, and even more
oddly, Mystique was also, casting doubt to whether even Mystique
knows Rogue's real name. Rogue first learned of her powers
when kissing Cody Robbins under her lucky tree by the banks
of the Big M (it should be noted that in Ann Nocenti's version
of the story, the boy's name is changed to Cory). Terrified,
she fled to her "mother," who responded by inviting
her to go on a terrorist mission to free a captive mutant
-- but *didn't* want her to use her powers. Obviously, since
Rogue at that point was not only emotionally wounded but utterly
worthless in a fight until she could get close to someone,
plans were being laid down early to drive her batty.
Sometime after this, Rogue joined the Brotherhood of Evil
Mutants (or BOEM). Around the same time, she was introduced
(through Mystique) to the Hellfire Club, and actually took
on Sebastian Shaw, then Black King of said Club. She lost.
Also around this time (busy time!), she had her first run-in
with Carol Danvers, absorbing some of her powers. Contrary
to public opinion, Carol escaped the first time, and got her
powers back, too.
Now Rogue's history starts becoming chronological with her
appearances in Marvel Comics. She reambushes Carol Danvers,
this time permanently gaining the Ms. Marvel abilities. Then
she helps Mystique take out the Avengers (and would have won,
too, if it wasn't for Iron Man).
This is where it gets complicated. Rogue's original appearance
wasn't supposed to be in Avengers Annual #10, it was supposed
to be in the pages of Ms. Marvel, the book that Chris Claremont
was working on at the time. Ms. Marvel, however, was cancelled,
leaving an incomplete plot involving the BOEM, the Hellfire
Club (with Mastermind as a member, so it was pre-Dark Phoenix
in the X-Men), and some arms smugglers. It's highly possible
that many of the references Claremont had for Rogue to stories
that had never been seen were to be presented in this storyline
(like her first battle against Sebastian Shaw). Marvel Super-Heroes,
the new quarterly title, published the first two parts of
this old storyline recently, but the ending of the second
part was rewritten by a current writer, and included incomplete
and erronous examples of Rogue's later chronology. So, the
true ending to the Ms. Marvel storyline is still, apparently,
only in Claremont's head.
Confused yet? Good! Let's move on. After a few more BOEM
appearances for Rogue, Mastermind decides to take revenge
on Mystique for opposing the Hellfire Club in the kinda-not-published
Ms. Marvel episodes. He does this by helping loosen Rogue's
sanity with his illusions, and drives her away from Mystique.
Rogue flees to the X-Men for help, and after the usual patented
X-Angst, is accepted in with the merry mutants (probably following
the reasoning that anyone who suffers as much as she can will
make a great addition to their sorrow-filled speeches).
Since then, Rogue's history has largely followed the X-Men's.
I leave you to the other FAQs about their history and make-up
to see what happened next.
Oh, yeah... her eyes are green.
Powers
Rogue's only natural super power (her mutant one) is the
ability to (all together now) absorb the abilities, memories,
and powers of people that she comes into flesh to flesh contact
with. Due to unknown circumstances, she has permanently absorbed
the powers of Carol Danvers, Ms. Marvel, which have given
her:
the ability to lift over 50 tons
nigh-invulnerability
flight, with speed and maneauverability sufficient
to defeat high-performance jet fighters
a rarely-used precognitive "seventh" sense
that basically functions like Spidey's Spider-Sense
the ability to survive for an undetermined amount of
time in outer space with no ill effects
a high resistance to poisons and toxins of a wide variety
She is perfectly capable of absorbing skills, knowledges,
languages, fighting styles, and even mystic knowledge from
her victims, and using said abilities or knowledges to full
effect until they fade from her mind. Her power has been officially
set by Marvel as a 1:60 ratio (one second of contact gives
her one minute of powers, for instance), but it's obvious
that the real time she keeps powers is entirely dependant
upon the plot needs of the writer using her.
The maximum number of people she can absorb at once is unknown.
She has a limit -- but at least so far as non-mystic, non-cosmic
entities goes, it's pretty high (she once absorbed a good
thirty peoples' memories during one half-naked barrell roll
through a San Fran crowd). It should be noted that she's perfectly
capable of absorbing non-superhuman strength; it's just with
her already inhuman strength any additional 200 pound capacity
she picks up won't be noticed. She has absorbed magical abilities
and psionic abilities. She's even abosorbed machines (more
on that in Embarrassing Moments).
She cannot absorb the powers of something that's not alive
(despite the fact that she has absorbed machines). Energy
beings are also, supposedly, beyond her, as are most forms
of non-Terran life (such restrictions, as ever, dependant
on the whim of the writer -- and Chris Claremont had more
whims than a hurricane).
Having Carol Danvers co-inhabit her brain for so long (remember,
she absorbs the memories of her targets as well) drove Rogue
even more insane than Mastermind's meddlings. Having the two
of them inside also made Rogue immensely immune to telepathy
-- even the vaunted Charlie X had to basically ask permission
for him to take a telepathic look around. Her recent pass
through the Siege Perilous separated her essence from Carol
Danver's -- however, it left both of them dependent upon the
other's life force to live. Carol Danvers was eventually taken
over by the Shadow King and murdered by Magneto, who then
helped redeposit the rest of the life force back into Rogue,
who slowly regained her Ms. Marvel powers. What her current
mental/memory situation is, and her resistance to telepathy,
is currently unknown.
Ms. Marvel's powers were based on a Kree metabolism, so Rogue
shows up very strongly as a Kree in scanner systems made to
detect such a thing.
Her only known natural skills include a talent for hair bleaching,
good thrown weapon skills, the ability to speak French, and
a newly observed skill in cooking boysenberry pies. She has
some contacts in the underworld.
It should be noted that there is textual support for the
theory that Rogue lost control of her power in gradual steps
(see Embarrasing Moments in Rogue History, below, and her
Dazzler appearances). Once she could, apparently, selectively
choose whether she was going to absorb or not, or even if
she just wanted memories, powers, or skills. Since Carol Danvers,
the few times she's been in control of Rogue's noggin with
Rogue's powers, showed that she had no trouble controlling
Rogue's natural (absorbing) powers, it may be that Rogue's
psychology is the main troublemaker for all of her power's
shortcomings.
Appearances
Rogue first appeared in Avengers Annual #10, perhaps more
infamous for the aggravating appearance of the preadolescent
Madalyne Pryor. It features gorgeous art work by Mike Golden.
Her first appearance in the Uncanny X-Man title was #158,
where she fought Storm, Wolverine, Carol Danvers, and Nightcrawler
to a standstill. Her next appearance was in UX-Men #170, where
the nagging Mastermind cameo is given, and then she joins
the X-Men in #171.
The complete list of titles that Rogue has appeared in, one
way or another, from Marvel Comics, is:
ALF
Amazing Spider-Man
Avengers
Avengers West Coast
Classic X-Men
Damage Control
Dark Angel
Darkhawk
Dazzler
Death's Head II
Dr. Strange (Volume 3)
Excalibur
Fantastic Four |
Fantastic
Four vs. X-men Limited Series
The Infinity Crusade Limited Series
The Infinity Gauntlet Limited Series
The Infinity War Limited Series
Hell's Angel
Hulk
Marvel Age
Marvel Comics Presents
Marvel Fanfare
Marvel Super-Heroes Quarterly
Marvel Swimsuit Specials
Marvel Team-Up
Marvel Year in Review |
Mephisto
Limited Series
Moon Knight (Volume 3)
The MyS-Tech Wars Limited Series
New Mutants
New Warriors
Punisher
Punisher 2099
Quasar
ROM
Secret Wars Limited Series I & II
What If..? (Volume 2)
What The--?! |
Wolverine
Wonder Man
X-Men Vs. Avengers Limited Series
X-Men and Alpha Flight Limited Series
X-Men
Uncanny X-Men
Uncanny X-Men: Heroes for Hope one-shot
X-Factor
X-Force
Nick Fury/Wolverine Graphic Novel, The Scorpio Connection
Exalibur Special: Weird War III |
That list was just from memory, but I know she's appeared
in all of the above. Anyone with more titles, please fill
me in.
Parodies/tributes/take-offs on Rogue outside of Marvel aren't
very well spread. I'm only aware of Xodius #2, an issue of
Cracked, and the Cherie Jubilee #3, plus the fan.art in Amazing
Heroes (not only their swimsuit issues, either). Does anybody
know of any more?
As for other media, Rogue is a member of the X-Men Animated
Series, on some Saturday morning in a television near you.
The plot of the series is roughly based on the actual history
of the X-titles, if you let "actual" = "sent
through a Cuisinart at full mush." In any case, the comic
book adaptation of the animated series is X-Men Adventures.
Rogue's voice in the series is possibly provided by Lenore
Zann.
An Absorbing List
Rogue has had trouble absorbing the following beings, or
was incapable of absorbing them fully, or did manage to absorb
them, only to have them take her over:
Juggernaut
Forbush-Man
Wonder Man
Mephisto
ROM
Loki
Michael Rossi
(he slapped her, he stayed up, what gives?)
Mojo
N'Astirh
Archangel
Mr. Sinister |
Temptress
(of the new Brood)
The Adversary
The Entity
Magus
Garokk, the Petrified Man
Spiral
Hybrid
The Impossible Man
Selene (Black Queen, Hellfire Club)
Death's Head II
The Fractal Beings from the All-Energy Dimension (from
Dark Angel) |
There may be more, but, once again, this list is from memory.
Notice that most of the above are either powerful aliens (yes,
even the Impossible Man, who's damn powerful) or or powerful/well-trained
mystic beings able to counteract her powers through magic/psionic
means (Selene and Loki spring to mind). Once upon a day, Rogue
could take out a heavy hitter like Thor in two panels. Now,
some robot Madrox can tackle takes her out in one. What happened,
of course, was that when she was a villain her absorbing power
had to be basically unstoppable so that the heroes could prove
their worth by taking her out at super-super powered levels.
Now that she's a hero, natch, there have to be a bunch of
exceptions to her once-all-pervasive power so that she (or,
more often, her teammates) can prove their bravery
by not using her power. And so the DNA turns....
On the other hand, here's a comparison list of the people
that Rogue has absorbed completely. Note that
a few of these beings, notably the Dire Wraith, have caused
Rogue pain and mental struggles when she has taken them, but
they're listed here, instead of above, because:
1) She was capable of absorbing all their powers/personality/etc.
2) Any battle of wills to control her body she won
against the folks listed below.
Notice that beings who have taken her over without overcoming
her after being absorbed by her (like Malice) aren't included
here, because Rogue didn't use her power against them.
As usual, this list was recited blind from memory...
Ms. Marvel (of course)
Cody Robbins (a.k.a. Cory)
Captain America
Thor
Dazzler
She-Hulk
Colossus
Wolverine |
Nightcrawler
Storm
Professor X
Kitty Pryde
Rachel Summers
Cyclops
Worm (Wyrm?)
Thing |
Val Cooper
A Dire Wraith
Northstar
Cloak's "darkness"
Dagger's "light"
Gateway
Firestar
Human Torch |
the Computer from
the QuestProbe series
Bonebreaker (from the Reavers)
Longshot
Von Roehm (the Black Rook of the Hellfire Club)
Northstar
Sunspot
Vanguard
various bystanders for angst effect |
This is by no means a neat count, but by my memory, Colossus
wins overall award for being most absorbed, be it willingly
or not.
Embarassing Moments in Rogue
History
--ROM: Rogue kisses ROM, the Silver Space Knight,
right on the armor. She then proceeds to absorb the
goodness of his armor (no, not his amor,
you Gumbo-philes!), bringing about a moral change so that
she can team up with him and Mystique to defeat Hybrid.
--Dazzler (from #21-30 or so). This whole thing was
embarrassing, but then, hey -- it was Dazzler. High points
include Rogue taking out Power Man and Iron Fist, low points
include Dazzler taking out Rogue (by sucking her through a
jet engine). Mmm-hmm. Also interesting in that Rogue touches
Dazzler in one issue, yet only absorbs Dazz's powers, leaving
Dazz fully conscious and with her memories. Some faint last
vestiges of control before she had to go join the X-Men?
--The X-Men in Asgard. While tied up by Loki, Nightcrawler
teleports out of his bonds, wraps his tail around Cyke's mouth,
and then kisses Rogue, thereby somehow transferring both his
and Cyclops' powers to Rogue, an incredible
scene with absolutely no precedence and no reference to it
later. Guess it was just all that healthy Asgardian air...
--Marvel Fanfare #33. The end of a four issue storyline
loosely based on a bad computer game, Rogue gets trapped by
an alien computer and then *absorbs the computer's absorbed
powers* of Spider-Man, Human Torch, and Hulk, with which she
gets to beat up a possessed Magneto. Whee.
--What The--?!. Rogue kisses Forbush-Man and is transformed
into a duplicate of Colander Girl! Ick!
--What If-- The X-Men had Stayed in Asgard? A totally
ludicrous issue by Jim Valentino, who apparently thought that
Loki's one-time immunity to Rogue's powers meant that all
Asgardians are likewise immune (just ask Thor about that,
bucko), so she sticks around in the Celestial City and actually
marries Fandral, of the Warriors Three. I still don't know
which is worse: Valentino's non-explanation of how Rogue couldn't
absorb any Asgardians, or Fandral actually getting married.
Errors in Rogue's Stats in TSR's Marvel
Super-Heroes RPG
Her flying speed should be at least Monstrous or faster,
not Good. In UX #182 she was capable of outmaneuvering and
outspeeding SHIELD fighter jets; in many UXs, she produces
sonic booms. That, friends, is not merely Good speed. I'd
place her at Shift X, or Unearthly at minimum.
TSR seems to be under a strange delusion that Rogue can speak
Russian. She can't. The only time she has was after absorbing
Colossus or Vanguard. She speaks French, instead.
Rogue should not absorb the highest ranking of any FASERIP
stat -- she should absorb them all, adding
levels cumulatively. Referee call as to if Amazing + Amazing
= Unearthly, but this gamemaster says it sure does. Rogue
still makes Psyche checks relating to her mental stability
at her base (Poor) Psyche, but can make checks on any spellcasting
capabilities she may have absorbed at her new (improved) Psyche.
The same comment about absorbing the highest rankings for
the stats applies to power rankings, also.
The ratio limit of her absorbing to touching time is far,
far too small. Sure, it's balanced for game play, but the
idea of balance in a Marvel Super-Hero game for individual
characters is a bit silly. Referees should feel free to adjust
the absorbtion limit to a far longer period of time as they
see fit, remembering that Rogue's additional powers have actually
only very rarely left at an inopportune time.
Rogue should have Contacts in the Underworld (undefined,
but she was capable of hiring snoops to follow Dazzler from
the East Coast to the West and keep her informed as to what
Dazz was doing).
Rogue should have the thrown weapon skill (+1 CS Agility
with thrown, bladed weapons).
David R. Henry option only: Rogue should have 1000
Karma.
Well, there it is: the 1040EZ of Rogue's history. Comments,
corrections, and controversy also gladly accepted -- email
away, folks.
I'd like to thank Joe Shidle in particular for his help with
this FAQ, and August Paul Yang and Paladin for a few additional
points. And, of course, kudos to Carol Dawn Lee for kibbitzing
above and beyond the call of boredom.
"If Ah wanted a growth experience, Ah'd
touch the She-Hulk." --Rogue, in a long past Richard
Darwin issue
David R. Henry -- Rogue Fan Club - THE
RED SHOES is coming! Ia, Kate Bush!
Obessa Cantauit. -- Richard Darwin // What was the question?
-- Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks...
for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu
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